Time will tell. (No pun intended.)” http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1990640,00.html
Interestingly, I don’t find what I am saying to be at odds with the Times article above. Typical of most non-Thai views it regards the issues the surround the conflicts as things that must be corrected. Issues like freedom of speech, institutions, military, etc. The problem here is that these institutions exist because they are still needed. To abolish them for the sake of Western styled democracy would be suicidal for Thailand. The present government appears to know this.
Thailand’s majority have historically viewed government as ‘masters’ – ‘elder’ government if you will. In most democracies, the government exists to represent, indeed serve the people. If this becomes the case in Thailand, it will require a major value shift, and one that Thai people are not likely to make soon. (see Elders below) If the comparison can be made, and I think it’s a fair comparison, the majority of Thailand politically is comparable to children growing up. They have needed and still do need their parents.
Have the parents become institutionalized? Of course.
Is that holding back some things? Of course.
Is that adding stability to the country? Yes, and No.
In order for the Thai majority to take the reigns of government they must win the confidence of the parents. This will not happen by the sort of demonstrations that have just occurred. It must happen in a united way. Nearly every Thai/family owned business as well as many Thai run, non-family businesses I know of are like a microcosm of the country in this regard. And there seem to no end of cases where the parents did in fact, turn over the control to the 30 and 40 year old children, only to have the business destroyed in a very few years.
The institutions and government that many are so quick to criticize are the very thing maintaining stability here. While the damage done last week is undoubtedly the most costly in terms of dollars, in terms of lives, it was extremely low. This points to the true values of the Thai and is something that most developed countries could learn a great deal from. Businesses will be rebuilt, money will be made again, and when it comes down to it, the real hardships from it all will rest on the poor who like teenagers in rebellion, are gaining a foothold in the political process. They’re just not there yet. I for one, want to see that growth continue – but I don’t think it would be wise for it to happen overnight. What won’t be recovered are the lives which have been lost. Most of these deaths seem to be caused neither by the government nor the redshirts who are seeking a voice, but by a few who are apparently using all sides as fronts to gain power. This too, is a product of transition from the old ways to democratic government, which can only move forward through education, and increased maturity of the majority – a growth process which takes time.
One of the great underlying values of the Thai is that of honoring the elder. This lies as as deeply as any value the Thai hold, and is one of the obstacles to a Western style democracy. Rightly so.
Historically, it has always been the family elders who have had the final say. The social fabric was held together by this. As larger governments have emerged, this is still the case. The fact is, the majority of the people still look to age as deserving the final say and this cuts across every faction in the demonstrations. One can only begin to imagine the internal conflict in the hearts and minds of many Thai at the moment. (In addition to age, wealth has also had it’s place in offering respect. Perhaps the greatest thing that Thaksin did for Thailand was help the Thai see that riches is not a good reason to necessarily respect a person or give them more credit that others with less means. I’d guess that never again will Thais readily be influenced heavily by a candidate’s wealth.) The upshot of this is that as elders involved in politics, it’s important to listen and go along with what they say. This underlies the institutions that are in question and is one of the redshirts major issues.
As I said previously, I think that this is a balance for Thais to determine. Ssecondly, it’s a balance that can only be found over time. For those of us who live here and have been taken with the charms of this people, let’s give them the space and time to find that balance. Let’s also understand together that this place is everything it is because of the values of the Thai people.
I don’t know about you, but if you’re in Thailand, you’re probably getting asked this question as much as I am. Most of the people I know don’t really define themselves as either Red or Yellow. Most of the people I know, wish that we could just have nice, quiet coups without all the publicity, which by every account, has hurt Thailand considerably. It’s not that people don’t care that business interests are suffering – it’s more like there simply seems to be no way forward that’s positive.
As in other places in the world, the whole situation lacks real leadership and direction. (Perhaps in this sense, the government is truly representative of the people.) Or perhaps, and I think more likely, this situation needs a different sort of solution, one that cannot really be provided by politics.
Everyone seems to want democracy – but everyone it would seem, realizes what with the social, educational, and class differences among the constituents, a representative government is unlikely. Not to over-simplify things, but it’s not dissimilar to an imagined representative process where the majority of the voters were 16 year olds, while the minority were 70 year olds. The minority has held the reigns of power (i.e. money) and all of a sudden, the 16 year olds have found their voice. Among his many other successes and failures, Thaksin gave the kids a voice.
The problem as I see it is this: While we may hope that the Red Shirts will slowly lose their ability to gather together, and Thaksin may lose his ability to support them, this is a dangerous game to play. Ideas don’t die so easily. Sooner or later, new leaders emerge.
It’s not hard to see that the present powers that be, don’t really represent the poor and less well-educated of the country. (notice I’m not saying repressed.) [In their own view, Thaksin was the first major politician to extend a ‘helping hand’ to the poor majority. We could all debate whether his motives were to help the poor or not, and whether what he did actually helped anything – many families have become destitute because of the loans that couldn’t be repaid.] But as a scenario, is there any leader among the Red Shirts including Thaksin, who could possibly bring together a government which is representative of the business and economic interests of the nation? (notice I’m not saying majority.) [And here lies the democracy problem. Who possibly favors allowing the 16 year olds to control finance, foreign policy, national security, etc.?]
We currently have two ways of seeing things, that are held apart from each other by virture of education, knowledge, and experience. If there was some way to educate, and bring the majority of Thai people up to the levels of the Yellow Shirts, democracy might work better. By levels, I don’t mean higher in any moral sense, simply more advanced due to broader experience, opportunity, education, money, etc. This is the vital difference between the young and the old. Thailand doesn’t do retirement very well. We value our aged. But this can also be extremely stifling. And on occasion, splits occur.
What is needed here is a bridge, or better yet, many bridges that will span the gaps between the Red and Yellow factions. Today, Thonburi is nearly non-existent as a unique and different place from Bangkok – it has been so integrated mainly due to the bridges across the Chao Phraya River. But where the bridges might come from in order to span the gaps between the Red and Yellow is anyone’s guess, but they must ideally be built from the power base to the disenfranchised – and here too, leadership appears to be lacking.
Thinking out loud, I wonder if business people, all of who suffer from the current state of dysfunction, could develop a plan to make the needed bridges. While a return on investment in the poorer communities may not make great business sense, it makes great social sense. It might also do wonders to alleviate the political divide that is costing business so much today.
I imagine people commenting at this point – something down the lines of how long such a strategy would take and how expensive it would be. I agree, it could only happen little by little over a period of time, before the lasting results would be understood completely, but I also know that this problem of Red and Yellow isn’t going to end with the demonstrations this weekend – and frankly, from the business perspective, it’s costing too much already.
Last year I visited Taiwan. I spoke with friends about the tensions between the mainland and their country. Those tensions are lessening, little by little, because of investment between the countries. If the Thai government created incentives for businessmen to invest in the poorer communities, much could happen quickly. It wouldn’t take too long before the knowledge and experience would be there in a way that everyone could finally wear new shirts with new colors. Then, and not before, will Thailand find the means to a representative government.
If you’ve moved to a new place recently, you’re probably experiencing some degree of culture shock. I remember when I first moved to Thailand. My temper grew short, I felt stupid most of the time (for my friends, no need to comment here) and it didn’t help being illiterate either, and I seemed to feel things I’d never felt before!
What was going on? I wasn’t myself.
When I moved to Thailand in 1987, the idea that Thailand was the ‘Land of Smiles’ had I believe just begun to become a national slogan. Everywhere I went, I felt like I was expected to smile. I grew up in Southern California. Smiling at the wrong time, place or person could get you into serious trouble. More to the point, I just didn’t feel like smiling all the time. Smiling took effort. Yet everywhere I went, people wanted me to smile back at them.
I found relief though. It was during this time that I discovered Indian food. Not far from my house, was this great little Indian restaurant that some friends took me to, and the food was outstanding. Then reason I went back over and again however was not for the food. I had found a pressure release valve for culture shock!
From the moment I entered the restaurant, smiles were no longer expected and this felt wonderful. Walking in, the owner or manager might be standing there, staring with not even a hint of a smile, as if to ask, “Why are you coming into my establishment?” I would stare back, without a smile at all and say I want a table for 3. From ordering food, to paying the bill and leaving, the entire time could be spent without any effort or expectation that I needed to smile at someone.
Now, looking back, I’m much more comfortable with smiling. Rarely now, do people ever say that I look angry or unhappy but I assure you that this didn’t happen without pain – having to do anything that doesn’t come naturally is hard work.
Adjusting to any new culture – this is hard work. Culture shock is normally NOT some huge thing that happens, but is a lot of little things that we generally don’t notice. What we notice, are the feelings that we experience as a result of being pushed out of our comfort zones. In fact, for me, I see adjusting to a new culture as something very similar to excercise – it’s good for us.
Most of us have lived in our own language/culture and have arrived at an inner ‘place’ or comfort zone. Our lives are predicatble there. We know that we are easy-going, or high strung, or whatever we think characterizes us. When we move to a new place, our inner limits change.
Imagine for example, that we have a cup of water (patience) that is 1/4 full. To overflow (or lose your patience), we have to add in 3/4 more water, and this is you normally. When you move to a new place, all the little things that are different and probably don’t really bother you all that much, get added in. Together, they may add up to a great deal. So are you losing your patience easily? Not surprising.
Over time you assimilate the differences and they become part of you. This generally takes longer than you think. Don’t be surprised don’t be too hard on yourself. There can be nothing as fantastic as learning about new people and places. Enjoy it as much as you can, and accept that the inner-excercise of culture shock can be a healthy thing!
A pretty good blog about culture shock can be found at:
Leaving the Nest: An Expatriate’s Survival Guide: Culture Shock 101: The Problem
(One thing I realized as a student in the AUA Thai Program is that through sharing their lives, our teachers gave us more understanding of culture than was even imaginable. I realized that in fact, understanding culture was more important than being able to use Thai, and preliminary to being able to use Thai as a Thai. There is so much added value in that, the for me, becoming fluent in Thai was merely a by-product.)
I was 26 years old when I entered the Thai Program at AUA in September of 1987. I’d just moved into a house on Ladphrao Rd – a large private home with a large yard ant it took about 45 minutes one way to get to school. The greatest difficulty I had in learning Thai was navigating the traffic!
I had chosen AUA because they were then, and still are, the only school who offers something besides the traditional programs that I had always failed miserably in. As as student, I hated being put on the spot – even when I knew the answer (which on occasion I did!) So when I found AUA, it didn’t take much to convince me to give it a year. If it didn’t work – well I could always enroll in a traditional, ‘practice makes perfect’ sort of program.
The difference of AUA was that we didn’t really study. My job as a student was to take in whatever they served up – and they served up a whole lot! This wasn’t just a language school! The job of the teachers was to keep us entertained and interested in whatever they could think up to do or talk about. They were a very imaginative bunch of people. By the end of my first class, I was thinking to myself that if all the classes were like this one, I was going to really enjoy language ‘study’ for the first time in my life. I did too!
It wasn’t all easy, especially at first. I was worried, mostly due to conditioning from schools and teachers, that I might not be doing very well. Was I doing as well as other students? Was I progressing as I should be? Without tests, how could you tell? It didn’t take very long before I realized that I was going to need to adjust to a few more things than smog, traffic, spicy food and life as an illiterate.
There were 18 students in my group – we all began level 1 at the same time. By the time I reached level 9 (the end at the time which also included a few classes based on ideas we had offered) there were 5 of us left. Beginning with level 1, students who were from all over the world, walks of life, and intellects, knew more than the founder of the program, Dr. J. Marvin Brown. Dr. Brown was a well known linguist and physicist and to date, one of the most humble and intelligent people I have ever met. I figured that probably he knew more about language learning than my student peers – most of whom were fluent in about 1 language.
So I got to talking to Brown. He was a great listener, and during my first three months of classes, I visited him a few times. How am I doing? How does he know? And while I didn’t get the sort of answers I was looking for, I got the answers I needed. Things like…
“…tests can’t really tell us how you’re doing.”
“…comparing yourself to other students in the class doesn’t really make any sense.”
“…look inside and tell me what’s happening.”
When I asked him if I was doing what I was supposed to he asked me what I was doing. I tried doing what he told me – that was to “sit back, and figure out as best I could what was going on.” and “Guess.” and “Don’t worry about what you’re hearing”.
This mindset took me three months to settle into – and once that happened, I’ve never wanted to settle out of this mode! This mode of learning has been and continues to give me life’s greatest moments and experiences.
It also seems to be a mode of existence that many adults struggle with. We want to latch onto things, nail them down clearly, and then say we know a certain thing. (more on this in a blog at a later time.) With this program I couldn’t do it. I came away each day, with a whole lot of experiences, but unable to say I’d learned even a single word! Wasn’t I supposed to be learning words? No! Dr. Brown, or Marv as he preferred to be called by friends, explained it to me something like this… Words, grammar, and all other ‘parts’ of language come from our experiences. In order to make a word, your brain needs the sounds of that language. Where does it get the sounds? From your experiences. In order to make a sentence, your brain needs the grammar of that language. Where does it get the grammar? From experiences. So I settled in and just collected the experiences.
It has been 22 years since that time. I have never once regretted a moment I spent at AUA. The fact is, language is a by-product of what they gave me. That one year of entertainment was without question, the greatest educational year of my life!
“We’ve come to believe that the core capacity needed to access the field of the future is presence. We first thought of presence as being fully conscious and aware in the present moment. Then we began to appreciate presence as deep listening, of being open beyond one’s preconceptions and historical ways of making sense. We came to see the importance of letting go of old identities and the need to control and, as Salk said, making choices to serve the evolution of life. Ultimately, we came to see all these aspects of presence as leading to a state of “letting come,” of consciously participating in a larger field for change… In the end, we concluded that understanding presence and the possibilities of larger fields for change can come only from many perspectives-from the emerging science of living systems, from the creative arts, from profound organizational change experiences, and from direct contact with the generative capacities of nature. Virtually all indigenous or native cultures have regarded nature or the universe or Mother Earth as the ultimate teacher. At few points in history has the need to rediscover this teacher been greater.”
— by Peter Senge, Otto Scharmer, Joseph Jaworski & Betty Sue Flowers
This blog is represents the views and opinions of David – only and is not necessarily representative of any organization or affiliate.
Reading a commentary regarding education and test results in America, the writer stated, “The United States has the highest level of childhood poverty of industrialized countries.”
Stopping to think on that point, brought many things to mind. I have always appreciated the sense that Asians have toward their fellow countrymen. They truly act as one big family – fighting, warning, and looking out after the needs of one another, because they recognize and sense a responsibility toward their fellow man. Often, that has been directed at me, even though I’m not “Asian”!
I have always been humbled when that happens.
Why don’t we understand in America, that we are connected to those around us who are in poverty. We have a responsibility. We may make excuse; we may ignore; we may deny; but they are there.
I am amazed at the fear of those who are afraid of the minor changes that President Obama wants to make in health care. Why are we not afraid of the reality before us? Why aren’t we afraid of the effects that millions of people who can’t afford to even go see a doctor has? on our society, on our education, on our competiveness as a nation, on our economy, on our collective future.
We want to act as if our present situation is somehow ok. Yet when we complain, it is always the “government’s” fault.
We want to live as individuals – yet rely daily on a lifestyle that is provided us because or our government system and the taxes we pay.
We live in fear of the word ‘socialist’ because of a past that needs to be left where it has died – in the past.
“The United States has the highest level of childhood poverty of industrialized countries.”
This blog is represents the views and opinions of David – only and is not necessarily representative of any organization or affiliate.
Such a small, huge word, ‘let’! I am still learning its meaning. The areas of life that this concept applies to seem endless.
Our whole society seems to work on the wrong side of things. We want to prohibit things people want to do and make people do things that they don’t want to!
Think about education. People are born to learn – wanting to know is like wanting to eat! The question I have is this – What are you learning. Normally what we’re learning and what’s being taught us are two different things. Understanding this can place us on the right side of things.